Microsoft admits Vista is bloated, promises Windows 7 won't be

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  1. Roger

    Roger Member Staff Member

  2. Craig

    Craig Member Staff Member

    I'm not suprised. I needed a new computer right at the introduction of Vista. I went out and bought a xp disc three days later. I saw no improvement of vista over xp, and none of my programs worked even though, they said the did.
     
  3. DisneyGeek92

    DisneyGeek92 Member

    I haven't used vista. If I need a new computer I want a mac. I use macs often but I use a PC for school work and such. I want a new mac.
     
  4. mousefan

    mousefan Member

    That is why I use a Mac. OS X Leopard rocks.
     
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  5. goofy101

    goofy101 Member

    I have just bought a new laptop which runs vista and found it an improvement on XP had no problems with software not working
     
  6. Dan

    Dan Member

    I have a totally different take on that story. You can't trust regular news media to give you the whole story when it comes to MS. I once saw a story about a group of people running a petition to ask MS to continue supporting XP. The story put a smarmy spin on it, with an MS spokesperson talking about how it shows how much people like XP. Not one mention of the frequent criticism that Vista is really nothing more than XP with extra GUI and a completely unnecessary AND intrusive DRM system bolted onto it. I've seen tests with regards to computer games, Vista showed a consistent reduction in performance in every game. The problem is that they decided to encrypt some of the system buses, everything has to pass through this ridiculous encryption layer and it slows everything down. Ordinary PC apps may not make this slowdown as apparent, but in games you can measure the drop in frame rate and there seems to be no way to compensate for it.

    In this case, you need to know that MS has already applied for a patent to the idea of selling an OS to people one part at a time. The example was that if you wanted to add more memory, you have to pay to get your OS to support that extra memory.

    When I read "modular OS" that's exactly what I thought of. You want to edit video? Better be prepared to shell out extra cash for the firewire video module. Have an external digital audio interface and want to use it for some music recording for your indie band? Hand over the cash first.

    Those later examples are only guesses, I don't know for sure, but if you've seen what MS has been doing lately.. they're trying to make people pay for a lot of things that they haven't had to before. They're working their "Live" system that they originally debuted for the Xbox console into PC games, requiring game players to pay every month for a Live account in order to get access to the full feature set of the game. I absolutely refuse to purchase any of those games, but.. if they continue to spread this to other areas it may become difficult to avoid it without going Mac.

    I've always been strongly anti Mac, for many reasons. But MS is making Apple the lesser of two evils (yes, I'm sure many think MS has always been more evil). I'm starting to think about toying with running OSX on my PC so I can start getting used to the Mac way of doing things so that, if MS continues down this road of unlimited greed, the changeover to Apple will be less painful to this former Mac hater. I might be able to run OSX in a virtual machine so I don't have to worry about setting up a multi boot system, but running OSX on a PC is a tricky process in the first place.
     
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  7. Tim

    Tim Administrator Staff Member

    i used nathan brand new imac laptop last year at mousefest and must say i was very impressed. he had the dual osx and xp operating systems running as well. it was a very cool concept.
     
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  8. jcvalenti

    jcvalenti Member

    I've been running XP without any major problems since the first day it came out. I liked some of the Vista demos, but have never had a real reason to upgrade. I bought my wife a laptop with XP Installed, but it came with a free Vista upgrade mailed out a month later. Still haven't "upgraded". I think I'll wait.

    It's funny - It took forever for me to dump Apple as a platform. My first computer was the original Apple ][ (with a cassette player for storage, no less). I upgraded to a ][e. It broke my heart when I realized it was time to jump to the 8088 PC platform ... but I've never turned back. I have to admit, for the first time in decades, there's a lot to like about the Mac's. There's a lot to be said for simplicity these days....
     
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  9. DisneyGeek92

    DisneyGeek92 Member

    I like the mac because the user interface is so much more user friendly. I like automator because I can write a small script to do what I want.
     

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