Those Captain EO rumors refuse to die....

Al is reporting that TDA is still crunching the numbers for a Halloween time conversion back to Captain EO at the HISTA Theatre. ; That actually may work well, and keep the park at capacity for that period.

And it might draw me out there, so hey, I'd be able to see the other Jack in his home!

 

I've heard a rumor from a reliable source that he gets his info directory from Disney, but that info made be deliberate leaks of false information just to see how the masses will react. ; Corporations do that sometimes (ahem apple) to keep the eyes diverted elsewhere.

There are rumors that Disney uses some people in the community as mouthpieces to say things that would not be best said officially. ; But not all that info is accurate and it's deliberately so. ; If every rumor turned out to be true, it would be a bit obvious wouldn't it. ; Just like if you had all the answers for a test, you'd get a couple deliberately wrong just to not make it look like you cheated

 

Some of those rumors that didn't come true, well, sometimes popular support/anger can turn the tide.

I know a few years back the Empire[nb]Paul Pressler was hand picked by Eisner to run Disneyland and thereby Eisner basicaly had his hand all over DCA's poor planning, I'm sorry, the aggressive store planning over adding Disney features to off-the shelf rides, like Screamin'. ; Soarin was the best thing that came from DCA out of the gate. ; Also, who builds a theatre without bathrooms?[/nb] was planning on pulling Fantasmic! completely to save money, it got posted, angry complaints at City Hall turned the tide and the show wasn't pulled.

Night Kingdom, well, was real. ; But isn't going to happen. ; Conditions change. ; Rock It Mountain was supposed to be permanent...WDI put the LEDs in the sign when it got the full rebuild. ; Well, Rock It Mountain didn't last long, but the sign remains.

The Third Gate in California is another one....it won't materialize anytime soon. ; DCA has to repay the treasury first. ; But there was a plan to build a third park before DCA even succeeded. ; (The water park idea, to match Knott's water park)

 

OC Weekly reporting EO will return this fall...

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/d ... -return-1/

 

8/28: MiceAge reporting that at D23 Disney will announce that EO is returning...

In January.

 

I don't hang out in the forums. ; I think he has sources, and he's actually backtracked a bit - Iger still isn't convinced, but did you see the future plans for the theatre? (according to the rumor)

 

I think some of his "50/50" belief comes from things getting out, causing a ruckus, and then end up not happening because of the ruckus.

A while back, I know that TDA was seriously considering shelving Fantasmic! ; (if I remember correctly it would have been at the same time DCA was opening, and DCA had their own nighttime lagoon show that didn't last long). ; Of course, word got out, and complaints came in, and the plans were reversed....


While some leaks may be intentional deception from Disney, I can't remember the last one. ; Jim Hill said in August there was no way EO was coming back. ; Yet, Rasulo and Iger, and Michael's kids (I believe that one!) got to see it in the theatre, which was changed back to HISTA after Jim mentioned it. ; The way I read Al's posts on the EO thing is that *multiple* sources have told him that they had already made plans to schedule a conversion; it's just that someone not at TDA has Iger's ear. ; I guess we'll see if HISTA closes after next summer (assuming EO doesn't come afterall) to convert to the Laugh Floor if that additional rumor is true.

I'm trying to remember any other rumors which didn't come true. ; Subs into Atlantis Expedition was a real plan, but I know who leaked it, and why, and it got shelved because the movie didn't do as well as expected (not to mention the cost). ; The Imagineer who did that I believe was punished.

The IASW rumors ended up being true, although Disney has never officially admitted one of the major reasons they had to rehab it.

After the accident almost 11 years ago the Columbia almost didn't return: ; you have to look at who was running the parks at the time, and things like that cost money to fix and they didn't want to spend money to fix the parks. ; It was evident during that time frame with routine maintenance deferred, faded or badly chipped paint.... ; Heck shortly thereafter Roger Rabbit had its' accident, and if I remember correctly Al had the rumor that it wasn't going to return. ; It did, after 12/14 months[nb]It was a really long time, I may have the time line wrong. ; But that was also during the time that Toontown opened really late each day and closed for the evening at fireworks time, even if the park was open to midnight....[/nb] - to install netting on each car. ; Does that seem like a long time for such as simple fix?


Little other things, like having more kid play areas in the park[nb]Referring to another thread[/nb]: ; Toontown used to NOT have a kids play area[nb]But wasn't there one behind the treehouse, it was never open between 98 and 06[/nb]: until Matt Ouimet (maybe Rasulo, can't remember)'s wife took the kids to Toontown and there was no place to play - to burn off steam. ; So while the park survived that long without one, it only took a matter of weeks to be installed after that "incident".

So while some things seem strange to be added, or look like there would be NO need, Disney is in the business of making money and making their customers happy. ; If the customers want something[nb]Within reason. ; When they complained about the lack of thrill rides at DAK, what happened?[/nb], it will happen.[nb]More than likely. If the POTC movies had been a bomb, do you think that Jack Sparrow would have been added to the ride?[/nb]

I'm not talking about the fanboys[nb]As a gender neutral term[/nb] wanting things like a coaster at the Festival of Fools theater area, or the long rumored (and probably gone) coaster in Fantasyland at MK....but things the general public wants to see. ; A part of me doesn't like the fact that Disney has added rides that the whole family can't enjoy. ; But I'm not angry about it - it's just the reality that we live in right now that a large portion of certain key demographics want the intense thrill rides. ; So we get things like Mission:Space over a hanging pseudo-omnimover attraction.

 

I've heard from many sources that Lutz is believed to be tapped by the Disney corporation to be one of many people that get fed information from inside the company. ; These people may be given real information for the purpose of gauging public interest (which is what is suspected with the Fantasyland blueprints), other times they are given false information to throw people off the trail of what is really happening.

The key thing, I've been told is that of these media moles you never know who is getting fact and who is getting fiction.

I think the major problem with Lutz and Jim Hill is the manner they deliver the information and the demagogue-like attitudes they portray is really off-putting. ; Especially, by those people who are trying to forge positive relationships with the company. ; For those people, they strive to not associate with people in the community that have a reputation of being overly critical of the company.

 

I cannot think of the last time I've actually endured HISTA. ; It may be about the same time that I've actually sat through the film in the Norway Pavilion

 

I run on a level of fatigue like none other at WDW...I'm afraid that if I close my eyes during the Norway movie, I'll be entertaining the room with my melodious snoring. ; I've already done that at the France Pavilion, Carousel of Progress, Philharmagic, Hall of Presidents, and Muppets...haha